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#1 Barry McCrindle

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 07:16 PM

From the BBC news site


A new royal yacht, built with private funding, is being considered by the prime minister, Downing Street says.
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.

The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.

Education Secretary Michael Gove had expressed his support for a new yacht as a potential gift to the Queen from the nation to mark her Diamond Jubilee.

But he was criticised for suggesting public money could be spent on it.

The Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21) involves building a ship 600ft long, to be used for trade and business events, as well as a training ship for 200 young people.

BBC deputy political editor James Landale said Rear Admiral David Bawtree, who is behind the plan, said Mr Cameron wrote to him in October saying it was a inspirational initiative that had his full support.

Ministers say it is backed by the Prince of Wales and Princess Anne.

Mr Gove made the proposal in letters to Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, Prime Minister David Cameron and Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg last year.

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If there is something we can do as government to support this, we will look at this”

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Fellow minister David Willetts also wrote to Mr Cameron.

Downing Street emphasised that taxpayers' money would not be used on any new royal yacht.

"Clearly there's a difficult economic situation," a prime minister's spokesman said.

"There are scarce public resources. Therefore we do not think it would be appropriate to use public money at this time."

But speaking about FSP21 later, No 10 added: "This issue is, what can we do as government to support this? If there is something we can do as government to support this, we will look at this.

"We would react favourably to that."

Mr Gove said the Queen's "highly significant contribution" to Britain and the Commonwealth should be recognised with a "lasting legacy".

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When school budgets are being slashed, parents will be wondering how Gove came even to suggest this idea”

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He wrote to Mr Hunt: "In spite, and perhaps because of the austere times, the celebration should go beyond those of previous jubilees and mark the greater achievement that the diamond anniversary represents.

"Events such as proms and the party at the palace organised for the Diamond Jubilee, and street parties, although excellent, are transient.

"It would be appropriate to do something that will mark the significance of this occasion with fitting ceremony.

"My suggestion would be a gift from the nation to Her Majesty; thinking about David Willetts's excellent suggestion of a royal yacht, and something tangible to commemorate this momentous occasion."

After criticism in the Commons over the expense of building a yacht - estimated to be £60m - Mr Gove aimed to clarify his suggestion.

He said that his letter had been quite clear that the Future Ship Project was one option "where no public funding should be provided".

The last royal yacht, Britannia, served the Queen for 44 years, carrying her and the Royal Family on 968 official voyages before being taken out of service in 1997.

The ship, currently in dry dock undergoing repairs, is now a tourist attraction in Edinburgh.

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"The Diamond Jubilee must not be overshadowed by the Olympic Games, but form an integral part of this great year for our country," Mr Gove also wrote.

Labour Party deputy chairman Tom Watson said: "We're all looking forward to the Diamond Jubilee. The significance of the occasion should be celebrated across the country.

"But Michael Gove has shown he is out of touch with this proposal. When school budgets are being slashed, parents will be wondering how Gove came even to suggest this idea.

"This is not the time to spend £60m on a yacht."

A Department for Culture, Media and Sport spokesman said the palace had made it clear that the Diamond Jubilee celebrations should reflect the current economic climate.

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#2 westword



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Posted 16 January 2012 - 07:25 PM

whit waz that ,admiral bawtree, hahaha,,  thay c*nts is on anotha planet , >D

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:32 PM

royal yacht, what a good idea. as long as them that dreamed it up, pay up. for a change.
start with mr cameron donate 1 of his millions to get the ball rolling.
then mr. gove, then all the other blue blood hangers on.
see if it gets built with just their money.... i dont think so.
60 million!!!!!!! no get much of a royal yacht for that.
she might get her pick of a confiscated herring/mackerell boat shortly, convert it to a liveaboard for 60 million.i suppose.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:27 PM

Could she not just use one of the two aircraft carriers we're building at the moment?

To be fair to Liz, I think she's got far more sense.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 01:57 PM

let the queen buy her own royal yacht ?

#6 Hugh Paterson

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

I worked on the auld yin in the 80's the money generated during the trade days held onboard when the Royal family were not using it generated BILLONS for the UK economy and Britsh business. Its a load of bollocks that it cost too too much to run, it would have been cheaper dropping new diesels in her to extend her life and make her cheaper to run than build a new un. Still would be b nowt wrong wi her hull.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:58 PM

"generated billions" surely all the leg work was done ashore before hand and fat cats only went aboard to sign the contracts
Could do the same job in a 5* hotel ashore ?
only an observation mind ;)

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

Only an observation mind,but....If it's only a case of pen to paper PJ they could do the same job at Joe's cafe down the road...£2.50 for a cup of tea and a bacon butty as opposed to necking thousands of pounds worth of fine wines and 5 star cognac,not to mention the very best cuisine getting stuffed into their fat bellies while they sit on their even fatter arses....Jealous??...me??....whatever made ye think that !!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

a thocht blair wiz a clanger, but this camaron lawd is so out ow touch he,d be better aff on the moon directin ufo, s awa fi earth,  auld folk canny keep there heatin on and that dingbat wants ti build a feckin super y fir lizzie,,  beam me up scotty av heard it aw noo,,   anoth observation like :idiot2:

#10 homeward bound

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:15 PM

just another observation, would the new ship have an observatory ? :laugh:

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 01:10 PM

Could be a big wan commin on the market soon - should be cheap - jist needs a wee bit o dryin oot an a few plates welded an it alreadt pentit white  ---could be right sprush !

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