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Adoration II
, Dec 21 2008 06:17 PM
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#4
Posted 21 December 2008 - 09:17 PM
aye kev-i bought the licence to target them, was to be our main fishing and the place down here fair living with them at times. wouldn`t need many shots of them on top of everything else to make a nice handy living.
bend it,and if you can`t bend it,break it.
#5
Posted 21 December 2008 - 09:30 PM
Aye got ye Frank, not so good espcially after buying a licence, we never see very much of them, maybe at this time of the year we would get a 4/5 boxes for your day, its not a lot but it fair adds to the pay at the end of the trip. Even if we had a big day at the prawns, we wouldnt be able to land a full box of dogs,
#6
Posted 22 December 2008 - 12:05 AM
aye, absolute madness-having to dump good fish and as usual no scientific evidence to back the ban. they were scarce on this coast for years but they have made a quick comeback and would have been a viable small boat fishing for a couple of summer months.
bend it,and if you can`t bend it,break it.
#7
Posted 23 December 2008 - 01:59 PM
Heard it is going up to 10% bycatch, still hopeless as it is either feast or famine with dogs, here today and gone tomorrow,
Cod, haddies and whiting are now on a 30% bycatch for Nethrop trawlers Area V1, this is 10% cod + haddies + whiting giving a 30% total.
Think it will be difficult to get the office wallas in Edinburgh to go above the single 4mm with double 4mm chafer in 80mm cod-ends for the wee boats, 120mm SMP twine size still unknown, so imagine there will be big demand for mini tyres for the 80mm cod-ends in the small boat sector. still havent heard if there will be extra kw hours given if you were to shift to bigger SMP , that I would imagine would be 160mm as it is easiest to get.
The kw hours is another worry as there are going to be winners and losers in that.
Told today the net boys are up in arms as they are now left with bale upon bale of now useless and worthless 70mm netting.
All in all, another right good shafting for all concerned.
The only good thing I heard from Brussels was that Patrick our secretary stayed to the bitter end, so 10 out of 10 for him
Cod, haddies and whiting are now on a 30% bycatch for Nethrop trawlers Area V1, this is 10% cod + haddies + whiting giving a 30% total.
Think it will be difficult to get the office wallas in Edinburgh to go above the single 4mm with double 4mm chafer in 80mm cod-ends for the wee boats, 120mm SMP twine size still unknown, so imagine there will be big demand for mini tyres for the 80mm cod-ends in the small boat sector. still havent heard if there will be extra kw hours given if you were to shift to bigger SMP , that I would imagine would be 160mm as it is easiest to get.
The kw hours is another worry as there are going to be winners and losers in that.
Told today the net boys are up in arms as they are now left with bale upon bale of now useless and worthless 70mm netting.
All in all, another right good shafting for all concerned.
The only good thing I heard from Brussels was that Patrick our secretary stayed to the bitter end, so 10 out of 10 for him
#9
Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:05 PM
well i no from using a 80mm single 4mm twin start of year wee will catch less in poor weather and do alot more damage 2 codend john no feckin use single 5mm twin would do im sure most twin riggers down here would be happy with single 5 as what they are using just now double 4 as its cheeper 2buy and over the coarse of year u wouldnt burn as much fuel since wee put them on shangrila u burn more fuel
Mr Richard JohnstonEEEEEEEEE Jnr
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
#14
Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:07 AM
If you read the reports from the scientists Ricki it said that the 100s caught 65% less undersize prawns.That is not the point i was making tho.If everybody did a wee bit to help instead of expecting everyone else to do the conservation thing we wouldnt have the market in the piggin mess it is the now.
#15
Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:51 AM
well i never seen much diffrence likes of in the flat down here u were getting as much bulk o crap as u were with 80 but no where ur coming from bob if next year there was a count put on tails say 80 or even 100 it would help alot as wee all no the man that was taking tails counting 100 too 160 was mixing them but it takes the men in wheelhouse 2 put a stop 2 it aslong as the men running the prawns are getting there boxes they dont care but there only thinking of short term not long term alot o folk will be anoyd at what im saying next but its true wy put 6 flips on deck 2 tail everything and feck the market wen u could get 2 keep them bettr save evryones future bit of thought and ull have a future
Mr Richard JohnstonEEEEEEEEE Jnr
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
#17
Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:46 PM
sorry bob dont no wat happened there lol when it comes 2 my future its ma kids future 2 bob and i would like 2 spend rest of my working life at sea but if folk dont start thinking off future there will be no future things r bad enough with changing gear all the time without feckin the market up cut the flips down it will cut ur grossing but at end off day give u more years at sea
Mr Richard JohnstonEEEEEEEEE Jnr
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
#18
Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:59 PM
its has got to be an effort from all sides in that respect the buyer has to say no that is my limit anything below that is either returned or it gets paid a pound a kilo or somet and the skippers have to take some responsibilty for the crew who they have told to keep the selections
the man on the quay side should be lableing the boxes as weighed and counted from the boats as is
the man on the quay side should be lableing the boxes as weighed and counted from the boats as is
#19
Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:11 PM
i ur right jammy but none of the men tat run the prawns around these areas will turn round and say na cant take them with price of fuel 4 them they need every box again not thinking of future it will take buyers 2 make a stop 2 it skippers wont some depend on the wee stuff but if they cut flips down they wouldnt need 2 gross as much yes it will take a extra few years 2 pay boats or modifications but would that not be better as being tied up a year or 2 down line
Mr Richard JohnstonEEEEEEEEE Jnr
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
Sure its a grand oul team ti play for
#26
Posted 28 December 2008 - 04:49 PM
Ure like a pair o wee girls arguing over a dolly.Basically the prob is,apart from the credit crunch that too many small prawns nack the market.If they dont come aboard you dont see them and dont blind them and dont kill them.The CFA have for years voted against everyone else on the W coast to put the mesh size up.If people didnt catch 160s to the lb they wouldnt land them an u pair woudnt be bitchn bout who has the smallest ----.